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I have a very dry sense of humor don't I?
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Yes, you do... But some of us get it.
I got to deal with another one of those college kids today. Customer called me to adjust a CLUTCH BRAKE and CLUTCH on a Kenworth, I said "You have a mechanic" he said "Dumba$$ can't figure it out" ...25 year old parts changer that I wouldn't trust to do a wheel seal. And the kid didn't even know what a clutch brake was. What is the world coming to.:bangh
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The industry is getting what it payed for. The industry also forgot about apprenticeship practice. The industry does not want to invest in house training anymore.
So it's getting what it payed for, no journeyman level mechanics coming up the through the ranks. And who are the biggest complainers the industry that started it.
I started out sweeping floors and washing parts at 14, for a part time job. And look what happened to me, I became a real diesel ****
. I learned from some damn sharp guys. The problem today is the fact nobody wants to work their way up and the industry only wants instant techs. No investment.
Boomers are mainly to blame. I've listened to the line to many times, I just want my kid to have better than I had. {What was it that was so bad for boomers or they
didn't have?] Boomers have raised a generation that is basically lazy. Only a few are willing to put forth the effort to learn and do a good job at what ever the task may
be.
Do you remember the Hostess ad on tv years ago? [Hostess pie magician fruit pie technician]-----Well what we ended up with was a bunch of fruit pie technicians.
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You know... it's really funny, my kid grew up working his butt off to save a few bucks to buy a pickup at 16, today he is a line tech for a global company pulling in 90K a year. He fixes machines that I have no idea what the hell they are. The other kid is the same age and cant even diagnose a charging problem after 2 years of "Diesel Tech" at our community college.
Interesting story about the local CC, one summer I needed an extra welder guy for a big Irrigation project, and the local instructor showed up for the job, Ex union, total liberal, and after a day of telling me we were doing everything wrong... he was unemployed again in the same day. Irrigation is not the same as a nuclear power plant.
Interesting story about the local CC, one summer I needed an extra welder guy for a big Irrigation project, and the local instructor showed up for the job, Ex union, total liberal, and after a day of telling me we were doing everything wrong... he was unemployed again in the same day. Irrigation is not the same as a nuclear power plant.
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The term tech, like mechanic is a dirty word these days. In our shop you better be able to deal with what ever comes in the door, except major body work.
There are no techs in our shop only mechanics and I don't allow the term to be used under that roof, plus I will correct someone using that term in that shop
at the drop of a hat.
We don't repair tv's, washing machines and we don't do nails
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There are no techs in our shop only mechanics and I don't allow the term to be used under that roof, plus I will correct someone using that term in that shop
at the drop of a hat.
We don't repair tv's, washing machines and we don't do nails
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In a shop, I hate the term too. But when a guy is programming CNC and robotic equipment and carrying the toolbag to diagnose and repair electronic stuff... I think "Tech" is an ok term?The term tech, like mechanic is a dirty word these days. In our shop you better be able to deal with what ever comes in the door, except major body work.
There are no techs in our shop only mechanics and I don't allow the term to be used under that roof, plus I will correct someone using that term in that shop
at the drop of a hat.
We don't repair tv's, washing machines and we don't do nails
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Same here, I started working on heavy equipment full time at 17 and have never looked back.
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My brother and I had a conversation not long ago on this subject. My brother was a grad from CWU 4. for four years first to achieve that at CWU, made front page of Seattle Times.
Graduated top of class with highest honors from the UW medical school. Until he retired he was rated in the top five OBGYN's in the nation. This is the way he put it, the best I
remember.
A real good mechanic is like the best of general surgeons. A general surgeon has to understand the human body completely from head to toe. And the countless times that he had
seen a top general surgeon save the day at 1:00 am because the specialist didn't make it to OR. He said special terms and names are used to make people feel better. A better term
for people who program is programmer and electronic repairman. But even at that it lends an special name and license to their job title.
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Graduated top of class with highest honors from the UW medical school. Until he retired he was rated in the top five OBGYN's in the nation. This is the way he put it, the best I
remember.
A real good mechanic is like the best of general surgeons. A general surgeon has to understand the human body completely from head to toe. And the countless times that he had
seen a top general surgeon save the day at 1:00 am because the specialist didn't make it to OR. He said special terms and names are used to make people feel better. A better term
for people who program is programmer and electronic repairman. But even at that it lends an special name and license to their job title.
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RZ is that your 12V71 for sale on Moses Lake Craigslist-heavy equipment?
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Nope, not mine but I think I know where it came from. There was a couple outfits up here that used to run TS-24s, I know of 3 machines that were scrapped when iron was high, one of those had the 12V71 in it and wasn't in bad shape. the others had 6-110s and they were pretty sad. 7-8 years ago I knew of at least 8 machines that were still working and now they have nearly all disappeared, there's one just down the road that hasn't moved in 5 years but it has a 350 Cummins up front (custom job).
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That blown Series 60 got me remembering the fun that was had when working in shop and towing years ago. The shop had an impound yard full
of beaters. So about once every two months we would have a brick party. I would pick out the cars, about five normally to brick the throttle wide
open. Mechanics from other shops plus the Cornwell tool salesman would show up and bet on how long each one would run.
Well for the chevy guy's it was most disappointing, the longest any small block ran was 50 seconds. Buick 430 3 seconds. Mopar 318 2.5 minutes.
Ford 2bbl Cleveland 351 4.5 minutes. But the engine that would not die was a 1968 Toyota 4RC pushrod inline four cylinder. It ran wide open for
over 6 minutes and died because it ran out of gas. We put more gas in it, it kept going. So I cut the fan belt. It got so hot it shot the neck out of
the radiator, before that the hoses were swollen like a football. It never shot a rod out of it, It lost ring tension and slowly came to a halt. It ran
a total of 13 minutes full tilt. --I was a destructive bugger in my early years.
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of beaters. So about once every two months we would have a brick party. I would pick out the cars, about five normally to brick the throttle wide
open. Mechanics from other shops plus the Cornwell tool salesman would show up and bet on how long each one would run.
Well for the chevy guy's it was most disappointing, the longest any small block ran was 50 seconds. Buick 430 3 seconds. Mopar 318 2.5 minutes.
Ford 2bbl Cleveland 351 4.5 minutes. But the engine that would not die was a 1968 Toyota 4RC pushrod inline four cylinder. It ran wide open for
over 6 minutes and died because it ran out of gas. We put more gas in it, it kept going. So I cut the fan belt. It got so hot it shot the neck out of
the radiator, before that the hoses were swollen like a football. It never shot a rod out of it, It lost ring tension and slowly came to a halt. It ran
a total of 13 minutes full tilt.
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No sense of humor around here!
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Just been a bit busy with the track torch and plasma cutter making some rifle targets this weekend. That is pretty funny stuff.
the only engines I've scattered weren't done intentionally. I went through the 4 wheeling phase in the 80's that cost me a few bucks. But I did watch a friend brick a Chevy 307 once, it wouldn't blow... I think the little tiny 2 barrel was keeping it from getting enough air. I gave him 25 bucks and put it in my old '60 Chevy pickup, put another 30k on it before I sold the pickup.
the only engines I've scattered weren't done intentionally. I went through the 4 wheeling phase in the 80's that cost me a few bucks. But I did watch a friend brick a Chevy 307 once, it wouldn't blow... I think the little tiny 2 barrel was keeping it from getting enough air. I gave him 25 bucks and put it in my old '60 Chevy pickup, put another 30k on it before I sold the pickup.
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The ones we blew up were no cherries. Every one of them were high mileage left along side the road abandoned. The chevys probably shotgunned early because
they were so loose, bearings on the copper.oil pumps toast. I figure some of them took a dump because the plastic/nylon cam gear was cracked and flew apart.
But most just got hot and lost ring tension, those sounded funny too on their last gasp. Throttle wide open and winding down.. But that 351 Cleveland got real
hot. The exhaust manifolds were glowing red. When she drew her last breath and quit churning the silicon spark plug boots started to catch fire, poof there's one
poof there's four burning. The other thing was listening to the ones with hydraulic lifters float the valves. those would go to shaking like a dog S#!^&%^ peach
pits. That 318 Mopar ran with probably one gallon of oil and one gallon of coolant in the pan. Tough engine.
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they were so loose, bearings on the copper.oil pumps toast. I figure some of them took a dump because the plastic/nylon cam gear was cracked and flew apart.
But most just got hot and lost ring tension, those sounded funny too on their last gasp. Throttle wide open and winding down.
. But that 351 Cleveland got realhot. The exhaust manifolds were glowing red. When she drew her last breath and quit churning the silicon spark plug boots started to catch fire, poof there's one
poof there's four burning. The other thing was listening to the ones with hydraulic lifters float the valves. those would go to shaking like a dog S#!^&%^ peach
pits. That 318 Mopar ran with probably one gallon of oil and one gallon of coolant in the pan. Tough engine.
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Old Mopar stuff was tough. I had a 1970? Dodge pickup with a slant 6 that rusted out a core plug and drove it 'til the paint on the block was smoking... After putting in a new plug and coolant it ran just fine. The smoking paint was the only indication something was wrong (idiot lights that didn't work).
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TV programs were so bad today I watched John Fords movie The Searchers with John Wayne for probably the 6th time. That movie is 60 years old,
and so am I.
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and so am I.
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I remember a friends jeep wagoner.
Broke a connecting rod and jammed a piston high up in the cylinder.
Thing ran on 5 cylinders for years until a drunk ran a stop sign and hit her. (No major injuries)
Yeah, those 6s were tough.
We have 2 classics channels here, old movies and old tv shows.
Only good thing on anymore.
Really miss the Duke.
Broke a connecting rod and jammed a piston high up in the cylinder.
Thing ran on 5 cylinders for years until a drunk ran a stop sign and hit her. (No major injuries)
Yeah, those 6s were tough.
We have 2 classics channels here, old movies and old tv shows.
Only good thing on anymore.
Really miss the Duke.